Did your baby die from a vaccine allergy? The investigator and doctors are looking into the emergency in Pavlovka. Sudden death from vaccination - hidden evidence Death of a child after DPT


The population has developed a persistent stereotype that official medicine, with all its dogmas and foundations, is not always safe. In this wave, people, in particular, began to avoid vaccinations and protect their children from them. What is the truth here, and what is the misconception? Igor Obrubov, an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist of the highest category, answers this question.

- Today, many people refuse vaccinations, including routine children’s vaccinations. Why do you think?

Because in recent years, some media, as well as all kinds of healers and pseudo-healers, have been actively promoting the refusal of vaccinations, citing the enormous harm and even mortal danger that vaccination allegedly poses. Such propaganda led to mass tragedy when, due to an outbreak of diphtheria in the mid-1990s. Thousands of people died in Russia. Of course, complications from vaccinations sometimes occur, but the risks that occur during vaccination are minimal. It must be admitted that children do sometimes die after vaccinations, but most often this is a coincidence in time when there is another cause of death, and can also be associated with the blatant negligence of doctors.

- Which parents are at greater risk: those who categorically reject routine vaccinations for their children, or those who agree to them?

- A democratic society assumes that consent is required for vaccination. However, one must always understand that refusing it is fraught with fatal consequences. Thanks to vaccinations, the incidence of diphtheria, measles, mumps, and rubella has decreased significantly, and polio has been practically eliminated. But these diseases are not as harmless as they seem; many cause serious complications and often end tragically. Refusal of routine vaccinations, such as DTP (a combination drug used to develop immunity against dangerous infections such as diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough), polio vaccine (for the immunization of polio), trivaccines (measles-rubella-mumps), etc. , may result in disability or even death.

- And if the disease is practically eradicated, why continue to vaccinate, because this is still a burden on the immune system? For example, smallpox vaccinations have been abandoned for a long time...

Now polio is on the verge of destruction. However, vaccination against it continues. And here's the reason. Poliomyelitis is a highly infectious viral disease that mainly affects young children. The virus is transmitted through contaminated food and water, multiplies in the intestines and from there can penetrate the nervous system. Many infected people have no symptoms but shed the virus in their feces and can thus transmit the infection to others.

As recently as 1988, more than 350,000 cases of polio were identified worldwide. In 2011, the number of reported cases was 650. Currently, three countries remain endemic for polio: Nigeria, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Since 2002, the Russian Federation, as part of the WHO European Region, has been certified as a polio-free territory. However, cases of infection “from outside” continue to occur. The last “imported” case was registered quite recently - in September 2010.

The World Health Organization has set the goal of completely eradicating polio, as happened with smallpox. Despite the progress made since 1988, as long as there is at least one child in the world infected with poliovirus, the risk of infection among children in other countries remains. Poliovirus can easily enter a country without polio and spread rapidly among unimmunized populations.

- How does polio manifest itself?

It mainly affects children under the age of five. Early symptoms of polio include fever, fatigue, headache, vomiting, neck stiffness and pain in the extremities. In a small proportion of cases, the disease causes paralysis. In one in 200 cases, the paralysis is irreversible (usually of the legs). Of those paralyzed, 5%-10% die as a result of paralysis of the respiratory muscles.
Polio cannot be cured, it can only be prevented. The polio vaccine, given repeatedly, can protect a child from the disease for life.

- Is there a risk of getting polio after vaccination?

There are two vaccines in the world for the specific prevention of polio: the killed Salk vaccine and the live (attenuated) Sebin vaccine. The main advantage of the killed vaccine is its safety. It is administered parenterally (by injection) and produces only general immunity. Consequently, a person vaccinated with this vaccine does not get sick himself, but for others he can be a source of infection.

Sebin's live vaccine is highly immunogenic; it is administered orally and provides general and local protection, which is its important advantage. However, it can cause vaccine-associated polio.

In order to prevent the occurrence of cases of vaccine-associated paralytic polio, an inactivated polio vaccine has been developed and introduced in Russia. When immunizing healthy children against polio, inactivated polio vaccine and oral polio vaccine are used in accordance with the schemes of the National Preventive Vaccination Calendar.

If previously the entire population was required to be vaccinated, in recent years a fashion has arisen to refuse vaccinations, which are not given to children without parental consent. Accordingly, parents themselves can specifically write a refusal, fearing complications.

However, we must keep in mind that the unexpected return of infections occurs for one reason: we are already accustomed to not having them. And since they are not there, then let’s skip the vaccination - we can do without it, we won’t get sick anyway. This approach is fundamentally wrong: you can cancel the vaccination, but no one has canceled the infection. She can return at any moment, just as it is quite logical, given this attitude, that polio can now return to Russia.
The following examples indicate how serious the situation is with infectious diseases that seem to be a thing of the past: it is impossible to calculate how many children die from polio in India, Nigeria, and Afghanistan: they are usually buried there on the day of death without finding out the cause. And in Tajikistan they only realized it because the number of cases turned out to be high. In this country, as well as in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan, there has been a vaccination culture since Soviet times, but due to economic reasons, vaccines are supplied through UNICEF.

- Is it true that after smallpox was eradicated, it suddenly broke out somewhere?

Not true. The last case of smallpox was reported in the world in Somalia in 1977. Smallpox is the first and so far the only infectious disease completely defeated through mass vaccination. Vaccinations against smallpox in the USSR stopped in 1978-1982. Currently, the variola virus exists only in two laboratories in the United States and Russia. The question of the final destruction of the smallpox virus has been postponed until 2014.

- How to avoid the risk of vaccinations?

There are no lethal or dangerous vaccinations. Killed or weakened forms of bacteria and viruses or toxoid are used as vaccination strains. These bacteria do not cause diseases, but only form immunity. All vaccines have certain contraindications. Vaccination of both children and adults should be carried out, taking into account contraindications, only after examination by a doctor.

- What vaccinations do you recommend for everyone?

- In addition to vaccinations included in the national calendar, there is also vaccination for epidemic indications. For example, in the flooded Krymsk the population was vaccinated against viral hepatitis A, the threat of which existed at that time.

It is imperative to be immunized against tetanus, in which individual immunity is formed, and in the event of injuries from which no one is immune, an unvaccinated person may develop a disease that in 100% of cases ends in death. If you are bitten by an animal, you must be vaccinated against rabies, since refusal to vaccinate can also lead to death.

- Now, on the eve of the epidemic season, the issue of vaccination against influenza is relevant. But not everyone believes in it. What can you say about this?

In my practice, not a single death from influenza has been registered in a vaccinated person, although in recent years, with the emergence of a highly pathogenic influenza virus, deaths from complications of influenza, mainly pneumonia, have become more frequent. Flu vaccinations do not always protect against the disease, but they significantly improve the course of the disease and help prevent complications.

interviewed by Elena Serebryakova

Last March, Anastasia from Belarus buried her 6-month-old daughter Masha. The girl did not wake up the next morning after the DPT vaccination. Is there life after death? How to find strength in yourself? And who's to blame? Read about it in our interview.

Nastya, thank you for agreeing to talk about this.

Remembering this is always scary and painful, and then it leaves a residue in my soul, but I’m ready to share it with everyone. Firstly, sometimes it is useful to speak out, and, secondly, other mothers should know that this happens. But, first of all, my interview is for those who have given up, who feel that life is ending, that there will no longer be anything happy and bright. Maybe with my story I will just show that life goes on, no matter what.

Tell us a little about Masha. How was your pregnancy and birth?

Masha's pregnancy was the second in my life. Planned, without any problems. I always smiled and said that pregnancy was going just like in the textbook. And the birth was also very easy. Mashulka was born an absolutely healthy baby, 8/9 on the Apgar scale. She was a very calm girl, an angel in life! She and I didn’t know what colic, sleepless nights and whims were!

Nastya with her daughters: Ksyusha and newborn Masha

Did you immediately decide in the maternity hospital that you would get all your vaccinations on schedule?

I gave all the vaccinations to my eldest daughter, but her body never gave any reaction. And in the maternity hospital I immediately signed consent for BCG and hepatitis B for Masha.

You see, I, probably, like many mothers, did not study the issue of vaccinations in detail, because if the doctor says that it is necessary, then it is necessary. This means that this is a blessing; they did the same for us all. After all, there are things that are not discussed, such as, for example, getting your child tested to check his condition, or going to the pediatrician. And vaccinations for me were something to do.

To be honest, I may have heard about some consequences from vaccinations somewhere before, but it was so remote that I didn’t even take it personally, didn’t think about the fact that it was possible. And there has never been much publicity about such stories; I have not come across groups on the Internet that would discuss children who became disabled after vaccination or parents who lost children. Maybe I heard it somewhere out of the corner of my ear, but I didn’t attach much importance to them, because everything was fine, the eldest’s vaccinations went well.

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How did Masha cope with the vaccinations?

Masha also tolerated her first vaccinations well. The first DTP even without fever. True, we still had a small lump left from the last vaccination, but the doctors said that everything was fine and that it would pass.

Anastasia and Masha 2 weeks before the tragedy

How did it happen that the second DPT became fatal?

At 3 and a half months, we were admitted to the hospital with suspected pneumonia, which was later not confirmed, and we were diagnosed with bronchitis, although the only symptom was a slight cough. They were discharged healthy, the tests were normal. And literally 2 weeks after that we were told to get vaccinated against polio. It is necessary, that is, it is necessary. We did it, everything is fine.

After another 2 weeks, the first DTP was given, as I said earlier, we tolerated it without any problems! On March 21, a nurse came to our house and again said: “To get vaccinated.” I say: “Well, we did it recently.” And she: “You already missed a lot while you were in the hospital.” I don’t know why my mother’s heart spoke then, but the words literally burst out in response to her: “Can I wait a little?” And she: “No, no, no, you’ve already missed a lot.” I remember my thoughts at that moment: if the health worker says it is necessary, then it is necessary. I'm a good mom. I did everything as they said. I need to bring it, I'll bring it. In general, everything was fine with me, all the weigh-ins, all the tests, all the examinations. Of course, I cared about the health of my children. The slightest sneeze, puff, I immediately go to the doctor.

As a result, on March 23, I brought my child for the second DTP vaccination. The nurse, of course, talked about the recommendations: do not walk, do not swim, give paracetamol if you have a fever. All. We did it and went home. The child was fine all day, she played and smiled. By evening her temperature rose to 38C. My husband and I were warned, so we gave her medications that brought down her temperature. My daughter fell asleep, and so did I. I took her in because she was crying. It is clear that when a child has a fever, he is capricious.

This morning I woke up at 7 am. At first I didn’t understand what happened because she was sleeping. But then I saw something was wrong. She was somehow motionless, like a doll. I called my husband, he immediately began performing chest compressions, and at that moment I called an ambulance. They arrived very quickly and stated that the child had died. I just didn't wake up. The Investigative Committee arrived, and I was surprised that the investigators turned out to be so humane, and the medical workers were callous and soulless, only one guy from the ambulance team tried to somehow support.

When I said that we got vaccinated yesterday, the health workers turned a deaf ear to this and just kept repeating: “How did you sleep with the child? How could you go to bed with her? You probably crushed her in your sleep. Perhaps you strangled her and didn’t notice.” What? A six month old baby! A mother who has already given birth for the second time! Yes, for me this is generally beyond fantasy. All mothers know how sensitive sleep can be when a child sleeps nearby, and even more so, is sick. Then even the rustle wakes you up. And so they said this, and I didn’t know what to believe. The investigators assured me that this could not be, look at her, she would be blue, but here it looks like a toxic reaction. And off we go. Everything was like a fog! As if all this wasn’t happening to us!

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How did the doctors at your clinic react to this?

They reacted the same way as many health workers in our city. When they called the pediatrician home, he simply did not come. They waited for him here for an hour and a half, and then went to the clinic to seize his medical cards, but by that time they had already been copied. Moreover, even my eldest daughter’s card had sheets pasted into it that were not there before. There were many inconsistencies in the testimony. And I understand perfectly well that anyone in the place of a medical worker would cover their bottom, because they have a family, they also have children, they also want to move on with their lives.

In general, at that moment I felt very sorry for our pediatrician, although everyone around me was twisting their finger at my temple: “Nastya, you should feel sorry for yourself!” And I felt sorry for him, it seemed to me that if he had a heart, then he was now very, very bad, that he was also worried and suffering. Although no one even expressed condolences. He was simply silent, and when I saw him, it became clear from his eyes what he was really going through! And the nurses spread dirty rumors throughout the city that the vaccine had nothing to do with it. After all, the city is small and mothers began to completely refuse vaccinations, and they insisted that I had suffocated my child. For me it was painful and inhumane, it seems, you cover yourself as you want, but don’t do it in such a crappy way.

Have you thought about suing?

We immediately realized that it was useless to fight medicine, it was impossible to prove anything. And the courts are long and painful, they take years, and this will not bring the child back. If this could bring Masha back, I would gnaw the earth with my teeth. But alas! But somehow you need to live on for the sake of your eldest daughter.

Who do you blame for this story?

Sometimes it is very difficult to understand that you can only blame yourself for this situation, no matter how much I would like to say that it is not my fault, it is. I just didn't protect my child. I just don't know enough. It’s my fault that, having become a mother, I did not receive pedagogical, medical and psychological education. I’m just a mother who wanted and wants children, and this sees the meaning of life.

Is it accepted that the tragic ending is the result of vaccination?

An autopsy showed that the child died from a viral infection of unknown etiology. The etiology was not cleared up even after six months. It is clear that the viral infection was caused by the vaccine. After all, DTP is a complex vaccine that contains live viruses. Weakened, but alive. And I don’t know which of these viruses killed my child, but the fact remains a fact. On March 23 she was vaccinated, but on March 24 she did not wake up. And this is not sudden child death.

Anastasia and her husband with their daughter Alexandra

After Masha left, Sasha was born into your family. How did you decide to take this step?

We saw only one way out: we need another child. True, many insisted that it was not necessary, the body had gone through such stress, and so little time had passed since Masha’s birth. I was still breastfeeding her; I didn’t even have my period at that time.

You see, there are things that cannot be described or explained. And no one has the right to tell you how to do it correctly. I was just clinging to life, trying to get myself out of a state of depression, where there was not so much difference from a step into the abyss. After all, I began to hate myself that I was such a bad mother and did not protect my child. And such a mother should not live!

And it so happened that on the 40th day after Mashenka’s death, God gave us a small miracle. And when they confirmed that there really was a pregnancy, I pulled myself together and realized that I had no right to grieve anymore, because all this would affect the health of the little man who was born inside me. And when such thoughts came up that I didn’t want to live, I said to myself: “With yourself, Nastya, you can do whatever you want, but the little man in you is not to blame for anything.” And I pulled myself together. I waited. I was waiting for this child! For some reason it seemed to me that Masha’s soul quickly returned to us in this way.

How was your pregnancy?

This pregnancy was very difficult. I needed strict bed rest, any movement could provoke placental abruption, so I simply chained myself to the bed, going only for food and to the toilet. Sasha’s date of birth turned out to be another miracle - January 19, Epiphany. And I believe this is a sign from God. And if he takes something, then he gives, albeit not of equal value, but of equal value in return.

And I just want to say to every mother who has lost a child and is afraid to give birth again. If you have such a thought that you want and need, then give birth, even if it’s scary. It will always be scary. You can be afraid all your life. And I understand that if I hadn’t gotten pregnant then, but had waited a year for my body to recover from stress, it’s not a fact that I would have decided to get pregnant again. I would have been even more afraid, but this consolation helped me survive that pain. I look at Sasha and there are moments as if nothing had happened. It's like the whole past year was just a bad dream.

Do you now vaccinate your children?

Immediately at the maternity hospital, I wrote a refusal of all vaccinations for Sasha. I have studied this issue up and down and I can say that it is scary to vaccinate, and scary not to vaccinate. But this time I took full responsibility on myself. I don’t know, however, what I will do in the future, because life is so unpredictable.

The eldest daughter Ksyusha with little Sasha

Let there be some good stuff at the end of our interview. Who would you like to thank?

I am very grateful to my husband that he supported me at that moment and our family did not break up, like many others who could not survive the loss. On the contrary, we united and began to love each other more. I am very grateful to my true friends, family and friends who were there during difficult moments! I thank God for giving me such trials. If it weren't for this, I wouldn't be the person I am now. I look at my daughters and understand that no matter what, I am a happy woman, simply tested by fate.

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Last March, Anastasia from Belarus buried her 6-month-old daughter Masha. The girl did not wake up the next morning after the DPT vaccination. Is there life after death? How to find strength in yourself? And who's to blame? Read about it in our interview.

Nastya, thank you for agreeing to talk about this.

Remembering this is always scary and painful, and then it leaves a residue in my soul, but I’m ready to share it with everyone. Firstly, sometimes it is useful to speak out, and, secondly, other mothers should know that this happens. But, first of all, my interview is for those who have given up, who feel that life is ending, that there will no longer be anything happy and bright. Maybe with my story I will just show that life goes on, no matter what.

Tell us a little about Masha. How was your pregnancy and birth?

Masha's pregnancy was the second in my life. Planned, without any problems. I always smiled and said that pregnancy was going just like in the textbook. And the birth was also very easy. Mashulka was born an absolutely healthy baby, 8/9 on the Apgar scale. She was a very calm girl, an angel in life! She and I didn’t know what colic, sleepless nights and whims were!

Nastya with her daughters: Ksyusha and newborn Masha

Did you immediately decide in the maternity hospital that you would get all your vaccinations on schedule?

I gave all the vaccinations to my eldest daughter, but her body never gave any reaction. And in the maternity hospital I immediately signed consent for BCG and hepatitis B for Masha.

You see, I, probably, like many mothers, did not study the issue of vaccinations in detail, because if the doctor says that it is necessary, then it is necessary. This means that this is a blessing; they did the same for us all. After all, there are things that are not discussed, such as, for example, getting your child tested to check his condition, or going to the pediatrician. And vaccinations for me were something to do.

“The doctors said everything was fine and it would pass”

To be honest, I may have heard about some consequences from vaccinations somewhere before, but it was so remote that I didn’t even take it personally, didn’t think about the fact that it was possible. And there has never been much publicity about such stories; I have not come across groups on the Internet that would discuss children who became disabled after vaccination or parents who lost children. Maybe I heard it somewhere out of the corner of my ear, but I didn’t attach much importance to them, because everything was fine, the eldest’s vaccinations went well.

How did Masha cope with the vaccinations?

Masha also tolerated her first vaccinations well. The first DTP even without fever. True, we still had a small lump left from the last vaccination, but the doctors said that everything was fine and that it would pass.

Anastasia and Masha 2 weeks before the tragedy

How did it happen that the second DPT became fatal?

At 3 and a half months, we were admitted to the hospital with suspected pneumonia, which was later not confirmed, and we were diagnosed with bronchitis, although the only symptom was a slight cough. They were discharged healthy, the tests were normal. And literally 2 weeks after that we were told to get vaccinated against polio. It is necessary, that is, it is necessary. We did it, everything is fine.

After another 2 weeks, the first DTP was given, as I said earlier, we tolerated it without any problems! On March 21, a nurse came to our house and again said: “To get vaccinated.” I say: “Well, we did it recently.” And she: “You already missed a lot while you were in the hospital.” I don’t know why my mother’s heart spoke then, but the words literally burst out in response to her: “Can I wait a little?” And she: “No, no, no, you’ve already missed a lot.” I remember my thoughts at that moment: if the health worker says it’s necessary, then it’s necessary. I’m a good mother, I did everything as they said. I need to bring it, I'll bring it. In general, everything was fine with me, all the weigh-ins, all the tests, all the examinations. Of course, I cared about the health of my children. The slightest sneeze, puff, I immediately go to the doctor.

As a result, on March 23, I brought my child for the second DTP vaccination. The nurse, of course, talked about the recommendations: do not walk, do not swim, give paracetamol if you have a fever. All. We did it and went home. The child was fine all day, she played and smiled. By evening her temperature rose to 38C. My husband and I were warned, so we gave her medications that brought down her temperature. My daughter fell asleep, and so did I. I took her in because she was crying. It is clear that when a child has a fever, he is capricious.

“The words literally came out in response to her: “Can we wait a little?”

This morning I woke up at 7 am. At first I didn’t understand what happened because she was sleeping. But then I saw something was wrong. She was somehow motionless, like a doll. I called my husband, he immediately began performing chest compressions, and at that moment I called an ambulance. They arrived very quickly and stated that the child had died. I just didn't wake up. The Investigative Committee arrived, and I was surprised that the investigators turned out to be so humane, and the medical workers were callous and soulless, only one guy from the ambulance team tried to somehow support.

When I said that we got the DPT vaccine yesterday, the health workers turned a deaf ear and just kept repeating: “How did you sleep with the child? How could you go to bed with her? You probably crushed her in your sleep. Perhaps you strangled her and didn’t notice.” What? A six month old baby! A mother who has already given birth for the second time! Yes, for me this is generally beyond fantasy. All mothers know how sensitive sleep can be when a child sleeps nearby, and even more so, is sick. Then even the rustle wakes you up. And so they said this, and I didn’t know what to believe. The investigators assured me that this could not be, look at her, she would be blue, but here it looks like a toxic reaction. And off we go. Everything was like a fog! As if all this wasn’t happening to us!

“You probably crushed her in your sleep and didn’t notice”

How did the doctors at your clinic react to this?

They reacted the same way as many health workers in our city. When they called the pediatrician home, he simply did not come. They waited for him here for an hour and a half, and then went to the clinic to seize his medical cards, but by that time they had already been copied. Moreover, even my eldest daughter’s card had sheets pasted into it that were not there before. There were many inconsistencies in the testimony. And I understand perfectly well that anyone in the place of a medical worker would cover their bottom, because they have a family, they also have children, they also want to move on with their lives.

“If this could bring Masha back, I would gnaw the earth with my teeth”

In general, at that moment I felt very sorry for our pediatrician, although everyone around me was twisting their finger at my temple: “Nastya, you should feel sorry for yourself!” And I felt sorry for him, it seemed to me that if he had a heart, then he was now very, very bad, that he was also worried and suffering. Although no one even expressed condolences. He was simply silent, and when I saw him, it became clear from his eyes what he was really going through! And the nurses spread dirty rumors throughout the city that the vaccine had nothing to do with it. The city is small, and mothers began to completely refuse DPT vaccinations, and they assured me that I had suffocated my child. For me it was painful and inhumane, it seems, you cover yourself as you want, but don’t do it in such a crappy way.

Have you thought about suing?

We immediately realized that it was useless to fight medicine, it was impossible to prove anything. And the courts are long and painful, they take years, and this will not bring the child back. If this could bring Masha back, I would gnaw the earth with my teeth. But alas! But somehow you need to live on for the sake of your eldest daughter.

“I just didn’t protect my child”

Who do you blame for this story?

Sometimes it is very difficult to understand that you can only blame yourself for this situation, no matter how much I would like to say that it is not my fault, it is. I just didn't protect my child. I just don't know enough. It’s my fault that, having become a mother, I did not receive pedagogical, medical and psychological education. I’m just a mother who wanted and wants children, and this sees the meaning of life.

Is it recognized that the tragic ending is the result of DTP vaccination?

An autopsy showed that the child died from a viral infection of unknown etiology. The etiology was not cleared up even after six months. It is clear that the viral infection was caused by the vaccine. After all, DPT is a complex vaccine that contains live viruses. Weakened, but alive. And I don’t know which of these viruses killed my child, but the fact remains a fact. On March 23, she received a DTP vaccine, but on March 24 she did not wake up. And this is not sudden child death.

Anastasia and her husband with their daughter Alexandra

After Masha left, Sasha was born into your family. How did you decide to take this step?

We saw only one way out: we need another child. True, many insisted that it was not necessary, the body had gone through such stress, and so little time had passed since Masha’s birth. I was still breastfeeding her; I didn’t even have my period at that time.

“On the 40th day after Mashenka’s death, God gave us a small miracle”

You see, there are things that cannot be described or explained. And no one has the right to tell you how to do it correctly. I was just clinging to life, trying to get myself out of a state of depression, where there was not so much difference from a step into the abyss. After all, I began to hate myself, that I was such a bad mother and did not protect my child, and such a mother should not live!

And it so happened that on the 40th day after Mashenka’s death, God gave us a small miracle. When they confirmed that there really was a pregnancy, I pulled myself together and realized that I had no right to grieve anymore, because all this would affect the health of the little man who was born inside me. When such thoughts came up that I didn’t want to live, I told myself: “With yourself, Nastya, you can do whatever you want, but the little man in you is not to blame for anything.” And I pulled myself together. I waited. I was waiting for this child! For some reason it seemed to me that Masha’s soul quickly returned to us in this way.

How was your pregnancy?

This pregnancy was very difficult. I needed strict bed rest, any movement could provoke placental abruption, so I simply chained myself to the bed, going only for food and to the toilet. Sasha’s date of birth turned out to be another miracle - January 19, Epiphany. And I believe this is a sign from God. And if he takes something, then he gives, albeit not of equal value, but of equal value in return.

“It’s like the whole last year was just a bad dream”

And I just want to say to every mother who has lost a child and is afraid to give birth again. If you have such a thought that you want and need, then give birth, even if it’s scary. It will always be scary. You can be afraid all your life. And I understand that if I hadn’t gotten pregnant then, but had waited a year for my body to recover from stress, it’s not a fact that I would have decided to get pregnant again. I would have been even more afraid, but this consolation helped me survive that pain. I look at Sasha and there are moments as if nothing had happened. It’s as if the whole past year was just a bad dream.

Do you now vaccinate your children?

Immediately at the maternity hospital, I wrote a refusal of all vaccinations for Sasha. I have studied this issue up and down and I can say that it is scary to vaccinate, and scary not to vaccinate. But this time I took full responsibility on myself. I don’t know, however, what I will do in the future, because life is so unpredictable.

The eldest daughter Ksyusha with little Sasha

Let there be some good stuff at the end of our interview. Who would you like to thank?

I am very grateful to my husband that he supported me at that moment and our family did not break up, like many others who could not survive the loss. On the contrary, we united and began to love each other more. I am very grateful to my true friends, family and friends who were there during difficult moments! I thank God for giving me such trials. If it weren't for this, I wouldn't be the person I am now. I look at my daughters and understand that no matter what, I am a happy woman, simply tested by fate.

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Medical scandal in Odessa. A day after vaccination, a two-year-old child died in intensive care. Parents are sure that the injection is to blame for everything. In turn, doctors assure that the vaccination had nothing to do with it - the boy died from a dangerous infection.

The mother of the deceased child says that on Friday the boy received a routine injection, the so-called DPT vaccine, and less than 24 hours later, on Saturday, the baby was gone.

Marina Gorilchanaya, mother of the child: The resuscitator came down and said - we couldn’t save the child. His lungs failed. They immediately connected him to the machine, but his heart could not stand it, and the child died.

Daniel’s grandmother claims that before vaccination the child felt excellent and did not get sick. The woman is sure that the administered drug is directly or indirectly responsible for the death of her grandson.

Elena Gorilchanaya, the child’s grandmother: cheerful, healthy. When he was two years old, he went to the clinic with his own legs. On his way to the clinic, he said hello to his neighbor.

In the Odessa Infectious Diseases Hospital, where Daniil died, after a preliminary study they say that the vaccination could not have caused the death of the child. Most likely, the boy contracted a particularly dangerous form of meningitis.

Svetlana Lavryukova, head physician of the Odessa City Infectious Diseases Hospital: There is a so-called fulminant form of meningococcal infection, which occurs within a few hours. Within 24 hours, it most often ends, unfortunately, in death. Meningococcal infection can be compared to a fire in the steppe - everything develops very quickly, instantly. Like a fire in the steppe.

An investigation into this fact is currently underway, its results should become known in the coming days.

Vyacheslav Polyasny, Deputy Head of the Odessa City Health Department: Our commission conducted an investigation at the clinic. Within two days, a commission is created in the Regional Health Department - those activities that are regulated by order of the Ministry of Health. Then the report is submitted to the Ministry of Health, and there a decision is made on how to proceed in this situation.

Until the circumstances of the tragedy were clarified, the vaccine that was given to the child was completely withdrawn from the city hospitals.

The Ministry of Health has officially decided that the death of a two-year-old boy in Odessa after vaccination was in no way connected with the introduction of the vaccine. However, mass refusal of vaccinations is now possible in Odessa. At least, in similar circumstances several years ago, parents in Kramatorsk and Donetsk behaved this way.
We have not found objective and reliable studies on the consequences of vaccinations in domestic sources, but the problem of vaccination is global, so let’s turn to foreign sources.

The study, “Worsening infant mortality rates with increasing number of vaccine doses administered: is the relationship biochemical or synergistic?”, published in May 2011 in the international medical scientific journal Human & Experimental Toxicology, showed a statistically significant correlation between infant mortality rates and vaccination rates.

Somewhat detracts from the credibility of this study is that one of its authors, Neil Miller, is a social activist and anti-vaccination activist. This is a media character and a frequent guest on all sorts of American talk shows on the topic of vaccination, that is, a person by definition is biased. However, the eye-catching design of his website shows that Neil Miller has no money, that is, he does not use sponsorship from any corporations. Moreover, Human & Experimental Toxicology itself is a respected enough source to listen to.

The authors of the study tried to find an answer to the question: why does the United States, which spends more money on health care in both relative and absolute terms than any other country in the world, have far from the best infant mortality index? IMI is one of the key indicators for assessing living standards; it is the number of infant deaths per thousand children born alive. In the USA, the IMI is 6.8 (34th place in the world ranking), which is twice as high as in Singapore, Sweden and Japan.

The levels of IMI in the top thirty countries were compared with the number of doses of various vaccines administered to children in the first year of life, and a statistically significant relationship was found between them. In the USA, a baby receives 26 different mandatory vaccinations, and in Sweden and Japan - 12, in Singapore - 17. As a result, the correlation coefficient was 0.70, and according to the research methodology, a correlation >0.0009 would be considered statistically significant. That is, the more children are fed vaccines, the more often they die.

The infant mortality index is highly dependent on the standard of living in general, but the countries compared in the study, with some exceptions, do not differ much in standard of living. If such a study were carried out on a global scale, countries would have to be separately divided into groups depending on their level of development. Some very interesting things could come to light.

For example, Ukraine has IMS 9.0, despite the fact that our children receive only 8 vaccinations in the first year of life. In Mongolia, which is comparable to us in terms of living standards, each baby is vaccinated 22 times in the first year, and the IMR there is several times higher than in Ukraine - 39.9. And one of the poorest countries in the world - The Gambia - with the same 22 vaccinations has a catastrophic IMI - 68.9. That is, every fifteenth baby dies there, while, “thanks to” international assistance, more than 95 percent of children in The Gambia are vaccinated.

The study's authors doubt that vaccines kill children directly. It’s just that each vaccination is an extraordinary stress for the body, which puts a significant burden on the immune system. Accumulating over and over again, these stresses reduce the overall defense of the body.

Refusing to vaccinate your children is stupid. If only because, for example, children vaccinated against polio for some time after vaccination become carriers of a weakened virus and pose a danger to unvaccinated children. That is, if you do not vaccinate your child, he can become infected from those who are vaccinated. But increasing the number of vaccinations beyond what is officially required is hardly reasonable. And those that are required must be done consciously, be sure to check with your pediatrician about the origin of the vaccine. The decision to give a child a vaccine is legally up to the parent - you should not let doctors decide for you.

In Russia, mortality from vaccinations was particularly high in 2009.

In 2009, a wave of child deaths from vaccinations swept across Russia - ordinary vaccinations that are mandatory for all children. Parents sounded the alarm, and doctors reassured them, saying that these were all tragic coincidences, and without vaccines it would be even worse.

Channel Five correspondent Stanislav Grigoriev I tried to understand the situation and found out: what our children are vaccinated with has long been recognized throughout the world as deadly.

These are the toys of eight-month-old Liza Dyakova. Mom doesn't put them in the closet. She seems to hope that the girl will somehow miraculously return. But Lisa had already died, in terrible agony.

The day before his death, the child was vaccinated. They introduced the so-called DTP - a combined vaccine against diphtheria, whooping cough and tetanus. Within a few hours, Lisa’s temperature rose to 39.2. Mom called an ambulance.

“They looked at her, listened to her, looked at her neck, and said that she had ARVI. We said that we were vaccinated, they said that the vaccination had nothing to do with it. We left without lowering the temperature, not an injection, nothing. They just left."

And a few hours later the temperature rose even higher. The girl began to lose consciousness and became covered in some strange rash. The ambulance arrived for the second time.

Anastasia Dyakova, mother of Elizaveta Dyakova:“They told us we were going to the hospital.”

From this moment until death, another five hours passed, no more. In the afternoon, the parents were told: your girl is no more, the pathologist will determine the reason. And a month later, in her mother’s arms, there was an official document that said Lisa died of meningitis. Vaccination has nothing to do with it.

Tatyana Ombeleva, deputy chief physician of children's clinic No. 44:“The doctor had no way to predict such a development. This child had no contraindications to vaccinations; he was admitted at a normal temperature and in normal condition.”
In addition, according to doctors, the girl’s congenital diseases also contributed to her death. But mom doesn't believe it.

Anastasia Dyakova, mother of Elizaveta Dyakova:“I can’t wrap my head around it. If a child develops incorrectly, how can he grow up like a normal healthy child?”

Lisa grew and developed to the envy of other children. Is it really possible for such a coincidence: to get meningitis on the day of vaccination? Recent cases in other regions raise suspicions.

In Kaliningrad, a three-month-old girl died after a similar vaccination. The Investigative Committee is now studying the circumstances of her death. And in Chelyabinsk, parents began to notice that after vaccinations their children’s arms and legs were swelling and their temperature was rising. Everyone is guilty of the same DTP. At the same time, doctors convince: there is no need to be afraid, because if you do not get vaccinated, it could be even worse.

However, parents still have the right to refuse vaccination. It is possible that some will now do so. Especially if they carefully read publications about DPT on the Internet. Here is a website dedicated to this vaccine. The authors argue that it does more harm than good. And to prove their words they cite documents dating back to Soviet times. One, especially interesting one, states that the production of some components of the drug is strictly prohibited in many countries of the world - due to the danger to the health of adults.

Recently, a very large number of American children are losing consciousness after vaccinations, especially teenage girls. Experts are warning doctors to monitor children after they have received their vaccinations.

At least 463 people fainted after receiving the shots in an 18-month period from 2005 to 2007. This was reported by specialists from the American Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Why they reported only at the end of 2011 is a question. Fainting in itself is not dangerous, but some patients fall to the floor and hit their heads.

In addition, one of these people, having fainted some time after the vaccination, had an accident. A fifteen-year-old boy, having lost consciousness, hit his head and died.

Alexander Kotok: You periodically publish comments on the website of the Ukrainian League for the Defense of Civil Rights. What led you to become an anti-vaxxer?

Tatyana: The tragic events that happened in our family, and I want everyone who has children to think about how dangerous trust in doctors and vaccinations can be, and the conviction that everything bad happens to anyone, but not to with your child, everything will certainly be fine. If this helps save the lives or health of at least a few babies, I will at least a little atone for my guilt towards our baby who died from the DTP vaccine.

In 2005, a healthy, desirable girl was born into our family. We are very grateful to the doctors who attended the birth, everything went great and in the maternity hospital the baby was vaccinated against hepatitis B and BCG. Since we had not heard of any complications from vaccinations at that time, we agreed to them. True, we were alarmed that they gave us to sign that we allow vaccination against hepatitis B, but we were told that this was the order. Since childhood, we have been instilled with the idea of ​​​​the benefits of vaccinations, and we had no doubts about their necessity. We were discharged home in satisfactory condition, and our life at home began.

Have you noticed any changes in the child's behavior that would indicate a complication after the vaccinations?

The baby became restless, but this was attributed to colic and dysbacteriosis, which began for unknown reasons. After two weeks, everything gradually returned to normal, sleep improved, and the child stopped crying constantly. We followed the development of our girl and were happy. A month passed, and we happily and proudly went to the hospital to see our doctor. The examination showed that everything was normal, and we were allowed to get vaccinated according to the vaccination calendar. Having done them, we headed home. But at home everything started all over again: dysbacteriosis again, sleep became restless and intermittent, the child was constantly crying, I had to carry him in my arms. We thought it was a reaction to the vaccine, but the visiting nurse said that up to three months, babies have intestinal problems, colic, etc. And again after two or three weeks everything went away. The child calmed down and we finally breathed freely. Before the first DTP, we were told to do a blood test: hemoglobin was 130. After the vaccination, the same symptoms repeated, and again the visiting nurse said that everything was fine. After the second DPT vaccination, everything started again, but something new was added: we noticed that the baby was twitching her shoulder about 1-2 times a day. So sometimes when asked about something, they answer: “How do I know?”, and make a movement with their shoulders. We even thought it was funny. We couldn’t connect this with anything bad, but we still asked the doctor, and received the answer that, oh, these mothers and grandmothers, what can they come up with? At that moment we should have become concerned and consulted a neurologist... although now I doubt that we would have received the desired answer. Only recently did I read in a description of post-vaccination complications that this was a manifestation of a convulsive syndrome, a reaction to a vaccine, and after such a manifestation of a reaction it is impossible to vaccinate. In addition, since the same condition occurred again as after the first vaccinations, and we already understood for sure that one thing is connected with the other. And again, about three weeks passed, again the child became calmer, and again the time came for a visit to the pediatrician. For some reason, at this time I didn’t come across any articles about complications after vaccinations, no one around me said anything (maybe simply because I didn’t talk to people about it), and there were no obvious complications among my loved ones. We went for another DTP vaccination.

Marinka is 2.5 months old

Have you been vaccinated strictly according to the vaccination calendar?

Yes, we were disciplined parents, we obeyed the doctors in everything, relying on their professionalism.

So what happened?

The only thing that is clearly imprinted in my memory is the wild cry of the baby after the injection. By the way, I forgot to write that after each injection the child screamed a lot, and after the first vaccination he almost suffocated from screaming. Immediately after the vaccination, my health began to deteriorate. The child was put to bed, but literally 20 minutes later the baby shuddered and woke up screaming. I had to forget about a restful sleep. Once a day, towards the evening, she began to cry, and the crying continued for 2-3 hours. It was not just crying, it was a cry-scream, the way children scream when they are very, very hurt. For us, it started for no reason and suddenly, and did not subside. One might think that it was a wild, continuous pain. In addition, we noticed that the baby began to wet her diapers less. We didn’t know what to think; no one in the family from the older generation had encountered such a child’s condition. The doctor, as always, said that these were our imaginations and that everything was fine. But the smell of acetone appeared and the baby could not even drink water; she immediately vomited from taking a sip of food and water. Within literally 30 minutes we went to a private clinic. The pediatrician immediately wrote a referral to the hospital, and we ended up in the infectious diseases department. Further events happened rapidly. Blood, stool, and urine tests were taken, for some reason they did an x-ray (the doctors said to rule out pneumonia (?)), and an analysis for an intestinal infection. These appointments were made by the doctor in the emergency department. A blood test showed hemoglobin 90, the next day 60. Then the baby’s face became very swollen, her eyes turned into slits. At my insistence, since it was Sunday and the doctor on duty did nothing, waited until Monday, they called a doctor from the intensive care unit, I drew his attention to the smell of acetone, low hemoglobin, and swelling. He examined the child and immediately took him to the intensive care unit. They did a test for creatinine, it was very high... Further events merged into some kind of nightmarish delirium, I simply cannot describe them in detail. In general, the tests did not confirm an intestinal infection; A biochemical blood test showed that the kidneys were failing, the child began to have convulsions, she lost consciousness, stopped breathing and was transferred to mechanical breathing. In general, according to the doctor, the child had cerebral edema, seizures, cessation of kidney function, and weak heart function. On the card I saw a preliminary diagnosis - “Encephalitis of unknown etiology, multiple organ failure, glomerulonephritis.” Hemoglobin dropped to 45. We asked what was the reason for this condition, we were asked counter questions, but other than the fact that we had never been anywhere other than the hospital and had recently been vaccinated, we could not say anything more. But the doctors could not say anything about the cause of the child’s condition. At home I had the “Practitioner’s Handbook” (M., 1993), and based on the preliminary diagnosis, I began to look for information. Even then, I found the causes of acute glomerulonephritis, among which “...Glomerulonephritis may occur after the administration of vaccines and serums (serum, vaccine).” In the “Symptoms and Treatment” section I found our symptoms. In the subject index of the same reference book, I also found “Encephalitis (meningoencephalomyelitis) post-vaccination.” That's when I finally realized what was wrong with our child. After all, the child had not been sick with anything before; the card only contains records that the child is healthy and is being sent for vaccination. All these seemingly disparate symptoms - cerebral edema, convulsions, heart failure, liver and kidney damage, terrible blood tests - all of this found one logical explanation: toxic damage to the baby’s body from the components of the vaccine. By this time, the card from the clinic was requested by the department, and I never saw it again. Having the information from the reference book, I literally swore to the intensive care doctor that I would not go anywhere, because I saw that the doctors were doing everything possible, and that I knew that it was all from the vaccine. He, seeing how I controlled myself and believing in my sincerity, confirmed to me that this was so, but they could not do anything, the body was too badly affected. He also said that this was not their first case, but they were never allowed to write “death from a post-vaccination complication.” They are forced to remain silent and write other diagnoses. Our baby, who was not yet seven months old, died. She died not even a month after her last vaccination. And every day after the vaccination she lived in agony: she could not sleep, she was in such pain that she screamed with a terrible cry, she turned yellow because her liver was failing, her face was swollen from edema because her kidneys were failing, she could not breathe - she was kept on mechanical breathing for several days, so that, as we were told later, to prepare the family for the death of the baby, and every new day they gave us information about her health so that we finally understood what awaited us, and we died all these days together with her. One nurse (she was probably asked to warn us) said that even if we wanted to achieve something, we would not be able to do it, since the tests, the clinic card, and the medical history in the department, and everything had already been rewritten in different ink so that the forgery is not visible. At the morgue, I spoke with the doctors and also swore that I would not give them away, just let them tell me the results of the autopsy, and they said that the brain, liver, kidneys were affected, and this was a post-vaccination complication that ended in death. They said that they would make a different diagnosis, just like in the intensive care unit. I didn't care anymore. We could not sue, we ourselves were all on the verge, we were grateful to the intensive care and morgue doctors for the fact that they told us the truth about the condition and death of the child, because when a healthy child dies for no apparent reason literally in a matter of days, it’s time to get away with mind. I understand that they took a risk by telling us this. That's all. We were so happy, so trustingly we carried our girl to the doctors, so proud of her successes in front of them, so obediently we vaccinated...

During their childhood, my parents suffered from every childhood disease except diphtheria. I myself had rubella at the age of 5, then chickenpox, but for some reason my sister did not get chickenpox, although we were together in the same room. Well, who said that it is more dangerous to get sick from these diseases than to inject a child with poisons found in vaccines? Who said vaccines are safe? And for that matter, there are so many different, much more dangerous diseases, and people don’t vaccinate against them. And they are vaccinated during the first year of babies’ lives. Of course, this is the best age to attribute all complications from vaccinations to an unhealthy pregnancy, a hereditary factor, sudden infant death syndrome, and much more. Who will prove that the vaccine administered to the newborn is to blame? Do they tell you that they are saving children from terrible diseases? Ask those born in the 30s and 40s how many deaths occurred from childhood diseases for which they were not vaccinated then. How many people were disabled by these diseases? And did adults suffer from childhood diseases? Our grandmother worked in a hospital, and she told us different stories from hospital life, and I remembered them for the rest of my life. Especially the case of how a child died of diphtheria, and what an emergency it was for the city. And now, in 2006-2007, besides our baby, 3 children died after vaccinations in only one of our microdistricts, and there was no emergency, only fear that the parents would sue. Yes, in fact, they are not even afraid of the trial, but of publicity, since after this parents will again write refusals of vaccinations. It’s been about two years since our baby is no longer with us, I don’t remember much, I’m writing what I still remember, but my soul hurts as if it happened today.

And then you started working on the topic of vaccinations?

I started reading publications about vaccinations, asking people, and this is what I discovered. When I told what happened to us, many talked about their own complications, complications among relatives, acquaintances, and neighbors. Literally every fourth person had such facts. And I realized that there are massive complications, some are stronger, some are weaker, but there are a lot of them. My friend knew what happened with us, and she did not vaccinate the child until 10 months. He grew up completely healthy and balanced. I recently met her and she said that she was very tired, the boy was restless, began to scream hysterically for no reason, throw himself on the floor, bang his head, and during such an attack it is better not to touch him until he calms down. I read about such post-vaccination complications... “But you didn’t vaccinate him?” — I asked, and in response I heard that the doctor persuaded me to do “at least the mandatory vaccinations.” This is how people think that complications happen to someone somewhere, but they definitely won’t affect them.

What would you say to young mothers who are confused and don’t know whether or not to vaccinate?

Dear mothers, learn from the mistakes of others, your children are not experimental material. You fear for their health and expect a doctor to protect it. We no longer have anyone to fear for; we don’t need to worry that the child will not be accepted into kindergarten or school, or that he will get a “vaccine-controlled” disease. Doctors have already “taken care” of protection from any diseases and even from the life of the child...

What would you say to anti-vaxxers?

Don’t find fault with my story, maybe I’m not saying something exactly exactly, and I’m missing something, but you need to be a robot and record and document everything at the very time when you are going crazy from powerlessness and grief, when you you become dull from insomnia and hopelessness, when you move like an automaton, and your head and whole body burn as if you were next to fire. The doctors told me the real diagnosis, and there is no point in making up a fairy tale. Yes, and I have one document where the diagnosis was written by a resuscitator, and there is a death certificate, where there is a completely different diagnosis. These two documents were written two days apart. I have doctor friends to whom I showed two documents and asked if it was possible to write on the death certificate a diagnosis that was written two days after the first diagnosis in intensive care? They said that falsification of the diagnosis on the death certificate is visible even to an amateur. In addition, I have kept lists of medications for the pharmacy, issued in the intensive care unit. From these lists it is also clear that with such a diagnosis, which is written on the death certificate, such drugs will never be prescribed, but with a diagnosis from intensive care, these are exactly the ones prescribed. For those who want to find out about the real number of complications, my advice is to ask as many people as possible about vaccinations. I guarantee you will be amazed by the results. I would talk to mothers who are in favor of vaccination on forums, but not with doctors. In addition, mothers who get vaccinated simply write in the comments that they are getting vaccinated, they are afraid for their children, but they were told that vaccinations are necessary. They reason, worry, ask. You can and should talk to them. And when those who organize these vaccinations and monitor the implementation of vaccination plans write, hiding behind a fictitious name, they are immediately visible by the hatred with which they write comments to opponents of vaccinations. There is no use talking to them. They themselves know everything perfectly well; they could tell us so much about deaths and complications after vaccinations that we would be horrified by the scale of complications and deaths. We hinder them by telling the truth. Ordinary doctors themselves are hostages of the situation. If they are decent, then they confirm the fact of post-vaccination complications, but in private, since official recognition means immediate loss of work. And yet, I am grateful to the intensive care doctors for their daily feat. While saving children who ended up in intensive care after vaccinations, they see the disastrous results of vaccination and cannot talk about it openly, and in private conversations such pain, such hopelessness breaks through their words. .. but they can’t change anything. They can only save.

Do you see a way out?

It has already been found. In the USA, European countries, and Russia, voluntary vaccination has long been legislated. No one would dare kick a healthy, unvaccinated child out of school or preschool. References to an epidemic, for example, tuberculosis, are absurd. Everyone is vaccinated against tuberculosis, not a single unvaccinated child will be discharged from the maternity hospital, all small children are vaccinated, but how many children are now sick with tuberculosis, and not only the pulmonary form, but also bone tuberculosis. The child is 3-4 years old, and his bone is rotting! Who does he, a vaccinated person, need to come into contact with in order to get this disease? And then what can be said about his vaccination? References to a vaccine of poor quality or improper vaccination are laughable. The answer to this is: if it doesn’t work out, don’t try it. If you don’t know how, don’t inject yourself, but lie for the sake of reporting; you know how to do this very well when you have to lie to the eyes of grief-stricken parents. Let parents have freedom of choice, then doctors can be told in the event of a post-vaccination complication: parents themselves are responsible for the consequences of vaccination. If our state is so eager to go to Europe, then let it copy everything that is there, including responsibility for vaccination errors.

It's not entirely anonymous, since I can be contacted. As for the name of the city, I don’t want to let down the intensive care doctors who were not afraid to tell me the truth. In addition, my health condition does not allow me to raise this issue officially again. I simply told people my case to warn them against tragedies. If I had known before what happened that I needed to copy literally every sheet from the card, every analysis, then today I would have handled all the documents proving death from a post-vaccination complication in court. Although there would still be no point. So be careful, dear parents!!!

How can I contact you, Tatyana?

My phone number is 80676646143, e-mail [email protected]